From: "hmed1984" <ed>
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2003 6:47 pm
Subject: Re: [TGS] Proposal ideas for season 5-6

<<I don't believe they do any more. They may not have even known
about him. (Do they know about him before Arthur and co. name him? I
can't remember. If not, that adds support to my theory that they had
no clue.) They were put there to guard the area from anyone showing
up; the Fae were counting on the Gargoyle's natural protective and
territorial instincts to keep out anyone who may have come in search
of the wolf.>>

They know Fenris since he was part of the party that attacked the
clan in 1999.

<<Or do we have another reason why they can speak the tongue?>>

Well the language would have evolved since Fenris was imprisoned
anyway, especially with little in the way of writing (or so it
seems). But they might have had contact with faeries over the period
I guess.

<<It interests me. Gargoyles has been a stage for many "human"
issues in the past, and divorce has yet to be one of them. Goliath
and Demona don't count in this sense, as I'm thinking more how it
affects the children of such families, and Angela was never in a
custody battle.>>

Sure, I see this. I just don't find relationship issues
intrinsically interesting dramatically. It's hard to find real
originality and spark there. Maybe I'm just jaded by lifetime TV
movies. But I do quite like the way it's presented here, the Pandora
issue aside.

<<Actually, we initially thought it *was* going to happen during
Timedancer, when Sata found out about Pandora's egg. But looking at
the season, trying to work a whole relationship crumbling and being
rebuilt while timedancing, with two young children quite dependant
on their parents, and then showing up in Manhattan with nary a sign
of the problem, and Sata not recognizing Chiang Yun in the present...
The former is waaay overcomplicating an already complicated set of
plotlines, and the latter just doesn't feel quite right.>>

Well if you remove the infidelity issue, then the issue could be
handled in 'Timedancer'. It's complicated, sure, but that's what
would make it interesting. if 'Timedancer' is about Brooklyn's
maturity then this actually fits rather well. There's a whole season
to develop it.

<<Except that TD 5 is set before Gargs 5, and Angela and Broadway
and them can't mention Brooklyn's past to him. We may see them
personally flashingback/referencing it, but it can't be openly
discussed.>>

I don't mean that it should be discussed. It would just be a
comparison piece. Broadway and Angela might introduce it roughly but
their memories wouldn't carry to Brooklyn and Sata's private
interaction.

<<That's why we're working it over two seasons- so that it doesn't
get an unbalanced (in proportion to the rest of the clan) amount of
attention.
It's a sublot, something that will have ramifications, but does not
need to be focused on- or truly, even mentioned- in every story.>>

Yes but there's still a lot going on and I really think that it's a
pity if at a time when Brooklyn is undeveloped in his own series,
he's getting quite a lot of attention in Goliath's.

<<Like I said, it was set up to be this way. It's not a sudden
decision just for the hell of it. It was written with the intent
that she got pregnant.>>

I'm not commenting on whether the decision was sudden or had been
planned from the get-go. I just don't think it's a good idea,
especially as I think on it further. It's risky in S&P terms and
it's unnecessary to split Brooklyn and Sata up (there's something
almost poetic about their jealousies being empty in fact). If
Brooklyn isn't under a spell it's nearly unforgivable and if he is
it's sensationalism for its own sake because the character decisions
he makes mean nothing - he's not responsible for his actions, he's
just dealing with whatever the consequences are. (It's this sort of
thing that turned 'Angel' from a high quality show into an
incoherent quasi-soap opera.)

As for the future plots, well the fact that I know I might not like
them doesn't mean that I'm not curious.

Ed